Sidewalk Vending Changes Before Council Tonight

Jenyum June 15, 2010

Would this apply to the entire city or just the zone identified for the pilot program?

Jenyum June 15, 2010

Also: do food carts still have to be within 200 feet of a commissary? (Not sure how Tollefson would work, then?) This is really key.

Marty June 15, 2010

@ 1
This would apply city wide, But the helath department is limiting new Food vending to the pilot zone.

@ 2
That was the biggest change. The commissary need to be within Pierce County in staed of a few hundred feet away.

You're Welcome June 15, 2010

It’s about time! 200 feet from a commissary? What a stupid law!

This is going to be so good for Tacoma and all of our outdoor events.

Jenyum June 15, 2010

I’m glad the commissary requirement is changing. We were interested in putting in a food cart in front of our business but it looks like we’re not in the pilot area. Hopefully it will expand city wide soon.

Altered Chords June 15, 2010

it is unclear what they are talking about @2 and @3.

The law formerly stated that carts had to be within 200 feet of a commisary? A store for soldiers to buy things or a snack bar at a movie production facility? What the heck?

Now the law has changed and according to Marty @3 the “commisary needs to be in Pierce County”

So to summarize, a food cart can operate in tacoma within the pilot zone as long as there is a store that sells things to soldiers or a snack bar at a movie production facility exists in Pierce County.

So if Joint lewis mcchord leaves pierce county, the food cart vendors need to pray that a movie making company with a snack bar moves to pierce county.

Am I the only one that suspects there are many bizarre laws on our books?

And don’t try jay walking in Seattle. I wouldn’t try it in Tacoma either.

RR Anderson June 15, 2010

Councilperson Marty Campbell: I want to eat a hot dog and chalk on the sidewalk at the same time. Will this tomfoolery help make my dream a reality?

Jesse June 15, 2010

So is this law saying that a commisary is really the main restaurant and the food cart is a satelite location? So you MUST own a restaurant in the county to have a food cart elsewhere?

Also, is this law a “pilot program” meaning it is a trial situation to “see how it goes”? If so, who is going to have (buy and invest in)a food cart when the future of it is a big “maybe we’ll continue the program and maybe we won’t” situation.

Jesse June 15, 2010

Also including arts and craft vendors clears the way for a Saturday Market type of situation… which is cool. In fact, I’d be interested in helping get it off the ground.

Altered Chords June 15, 2010

I see, in this instance commisary refers to a main restaurant location.

It seems restrictive to me. I can see a budding entrepreneur without the means to open a brick and mortar establishment having the means to invest in a cart. This law does not enable that person to begin their food service empire.

So I guess we’ll see an El Goucho food cart at frost park? Maybe a Pacific grill or Maxwells food cart? How about a melting pot food cart – Toothpicks of bread cubes covered w/ cheese wiz.

Jesse June 15, 2010

I’m not sure about the commisary thing AC. Maybe someone else knows?

Marty June 15, 2010

From TPCHD web site:
“ If not using your own commissary, provide written and signed commissary agreement between mobile cart operator and commissary owner. Commissary agreement must include a list of all services provided by the commissary, such as restrooms, employees’ belongings storage, dry goods storage, use of refrigerator space (including the number of cubic feet of refrigeration space allocated to the mobile cart operator), use of 3-compartment sink, etc.”

English: a commissary is a food prep and storage area that meets the requirements. It can be a built out a basement or an agreement with a place like “Amocat Cafe”, “Smooth and Juicy” or a church basement to use their pre-approve commissary as long as you store the cart there.

@ RR. Yes! Chalk & Hot Dogs.
Or felafels, ice cream Or even pink cookies. This opens up many other food opportunities beyond just coffee and hot dogs.

Tacoma Joe June 16, 2010

Amazing that we have so many detailed rules and restrictions for food carts, yet there’s nothing in the city code regarding regulations for private prisons which hold thousands of people. Chew on that, Marty (and use your spell check once in a while).

Soilent Green June 16, 2010

Are you suggesting Tacoma have a food cart with people?
I think there may be more code changes coming forth to do that, but we would a more “green” city!

Jenyum June 16, 2010

A commissary is basically a commercial kitchen, with all the proper licenses from the health department. So, yes you can’t really just have a stand alone food cart (I think I read something in the rules today that says you can’t even cut up fruit at one) but you can have a rental agreement to use someone else’s kitchen.

Slim Jim June 16, 2010

You can’t have perishable items, can’t really cook, can’t really refrigerate… the only things available on these food carts will be highly-processed non-food items: cotton candy, Twinkies and Gummy Bears… why have to have a rental agreement with some kitchen for that? Thanks for not much, Marty.

tressie June 16, 2010

why are people who fizz up into power around here…….so afraid of having fun? Outdoor food…been done for a few centuries, except in Tacoma…..
Is it the rain?
Is it the mountains?
Is it the moss?

Mofo from the Hood June 16, 2010

tressie, Tacoma is the City of Destiny. If true, then Tacoma’s potential can never be actualized, because in principle then it wouldn’t be the City of Destiny.

The profane self-existent eternal fickle finger of fate is pointing at Tacoma.

crenshaw sepulveda June 16, 2010

I’ll say one thing, if there isn’t proper inspection of these sidewalk vendors we’ll be known as the City of Dysentery instead of the City of Destiny.

inacomaintacoma June 16, 2010

i am going to set up a bread and a smart pill stand

DavidS June 16, 2010

It sounds like this ordinance begins to fix some of the challenges with the City. Unfortunately, it cannot do much about the TPCHD perspective. Until we see some leadership from the Health Department, this will continue to be a patchwork of sound bites that moves us minimally in the right direction.

You're Welcome June 16, 2010

“City of Dysentery?” Amazing how all of the largest cities in the world have managed to survive after building their street cart empires.

Besides, once the next plagues come, you’ll be happy to have built up a little resistance. You can thank the food carts then.

Altered Chords June 16, 2010

The question is “how much rat hair are you willing to eat?”

Patricia June 16, 2010

We are very proud of this recent accomplishment. As the president of Go Local it is my charge to support Local Independant Business and help pave the way for a “Culture of Entreprenuership”. Tacoma has been guilty of disconnection and Siloism forever. It has been a pleasure to work with Mike Davis at the PCHD and the folks helped make theses changes possible. Both the head of the PCHD and the Mayor of Tacoma directed us to have a mentallity of “YES” and ask “How do we get to the solution?” I feel like we have accomplished a great deal and have opened the door for future collaberation. For the first time, we have multiple agencies working together to streamline some confusing and very frustrating processes. I am already seeing this attitude catching on and being brought into other discussions.
Now to clarify some things:
(Jenyum) – The Pilot Program will be a testing ground for future changes and upgrades to the policies and regulations that will build the future Countywide program. So hopefully soon you will be able to enjoy this process in your area. The commissary regulation changing from 200 ft to countywide opens things up a great deal. It creates new business model opportunities for others as not all cart owners would chose to create their own commissary, but rent space from an existing reataurant kitchen, or you may even see new facilities created to support kitchen and storage needs.
(Altered Chords)- Commissary has nothing to do with soldiers! As Marty and Jenyum explained, it is a place to prep, store, and cool food that will be on carts. No, you can not cut and prep on carts, but you can at the commissaary, so that food other than unhealthy processed foods can be sold. The PCHD flexed a LOT in this area, and many more food items than in the past will be allowed, and I’m sure more felxability will come. The main requirements are to be able to have enough hand washing ability, and a bathroom use within 200 ft.
(Jesse) – You don’t need to own a restaurant to have a food cart, although some of the steps are much easier as we have streamlined the process with many scenarios. Mike Davis was sooooooo accomidating in this area. We can spell out for you the average cost of most any scenario that arises. The fees have been made applicable to approximated review time which make them much more affordable than in the past. I believe it would be anywhere from $500 – $1000.00 for anyone to get started beyond their own hard costs of investment.
(ALL) – The pilot area and changes made also allow for a cart to pick two locations with Tollefson Plaza being a third “free game” location to set up. Should they chose to change a location, they would have a small change fee to make that happen.
(arts and crafts) – The terminolgy of “original creation” makes it impossible for a made in China chachke cart with blionky things to show up. The intent for this whole program was to provide more opportunities to entreprenuers. They are already getting creative. We can not out think them! Someone has already asked the question if they can do omelets on a cart.
This is a great step in the right direction. I’m sure that if we are succesful in the downtown core we will be setting the standards for our entire region. Seattle is already asking us what we are doing. Their process will take another 9 months.

Thorax O'Tool June 16, 2010

I’d like to set up some kind of pill stand. You can take the Red Pill or the Blue Pill.

The choice is yours.

Paul Sparks June 16, 2010

Movement in this direction is so fundamental to successful urban areas around the country that it is a wonder it has taken this long to be addressed in Tacoma. Thanks Marty, Patricia, and others for getting us started!

gritcitygirl June 16, 2010

I am really excited about food carts. TPCHD really stepped up to the plate and created regulations, that while not perfect, do allow for entrepreneurs to get started.

Bring on the street vendors!

Altered Chords June 16, 2010

I am especially impressed that Tacoma is 9 months ahead of Seattle. They’re a little slow and dim up there.

We’ve had Taiku for over 12 months now and they haven’t even concieved of Saiki (example below)

Oh, no
(this like purposely left blank)
Saiku is very lame.

Altered Chords June 16, 2010

Please note that “like” should read “line”

(would be good to proof before hitting submit)

Tacoma Joe June 16, 2010

@ 27, 28, 29

Sure, we’d all like to see it work but it won’t work for individual “entrepreneurs” who are obligated to be beholden to those lucky establishments blessed to have kitchens within the magic pilot program zone… this reeks of favoritism and monopoly for the calculated inner business clique.

Altered Chords June 16, 2010

@31 – It does not seem so insurmountable to me anymore. I could use the fridge and counter space at Amocat for example. I don’t have a problem with that because I “get” that the health department doesn’t want me prepping food in a place where there is no food prep licensing. It’s not just that the county wants to bilk people out of $ to get the licence it’s just that the county wants to protect the health of consumers.

I am more inclined to buy an item from a food cart now that I know there are standards they need to adhere to. It’s not just somebody prepping food in their dirty kitchen that is shared w/ their 34 shedding cats and a pile a garbage on the floor.

inacomaintacoma June 16, 2010

it reeks alright

literally. like being being taken under the buttcheek wing of a clique of cretins with no idea what to do with money. or is that the port aka bog of eternal stench? should just drop the r and call it the pot of tacoma. in other words, there are bigger problems on pacific ave than a lack of food carts. are suddenly tourists going to flock to said ave because they know there are going to be food carts??? i was just on times square a few days ago on a dead sunday and even as empty as pacific ave, the buildings were doing interesting things and the real gems were just off broadway. broad strokes are needed on pacific ave, like ostrich races. which, with the moderate success of prince of persia with the kiddies, is a perfect time to set up such an event in dt thecoma. make the kids want to come dt, and the parents will follow. in other other words, kids + parents = money. dt tacoma needs fewer places for highschool dropouts and aging post grads to get drunk and more excuses for kids and tourists flood the place with benjamins. food carts? really?

pat, pat, pat

Jenyum June 17, 2010

Geez, what was that all about? Looking forward to more tacos around town, or maybe a gyro stand or two.

TacomaThinker June 17, 2010

I <3 Tacoma

…and I love our efforts to make it more enjoyable to live an urban life. Of course change is not magic – it takes time and a longstanding passionate effort.

Thanks to all involved

…and here’s wishing inacomaintacoma was instead truelyinacoma

Slim Jim June 17, 2010

The fuss is that if this really has been being discussed for months it was done behind some very solid walls and closed doors and with a very select group of business people who were the only ones apparently who got to offer input.

Where was the public consultation? Where was input from true individual entrepreneurs? This trend is very disconcerting and appears that Marty is only promoting items pre-written by a few people within a select business circle.

Mofo from the Hood June 17, 2010

Get it straight…Nothing happens in Tacoma without leadership. Y’all heard of the Great Man Theory?

Where’s that Morgan dude. For Buddha’s sake, isn’t he the freakin’ president of Tacoma Street Cart?

David June 17, 2010

I was waiting for this for a long time. Will finally be able to put up my stand.

tressie June 17, 2010

City of Dysentery….that’s comedy! Well, I have actually owned a real restaurant and putting it together and following the TPCHD guidelines and rules wasn’t tough…the food handlers card was an open book test…and the lisc/inspection was thorough yet speedy and fairly cheap…But this new fee and inspection schedule for carts, is very pricey…tho similar to rates in Seattle (which has a very nice plan for Food Carts and Tacoma doesn’t need to reinvent the wheel)….I’ll reserve my real opinion when I see who, what and where any food carts show up…
As far as arts and crafts vendors being authentic “makers”…who’s gonna enforce That rule?
The ordinance does sound like a bunch of great ideas..far more friendly, sophisticated, and urbany/authentic than crappy condos and back-in parking with PayParking….

jdub June 17, 2010

How does this compare to Portland’s food cart rules?

Do I have to “commissary” within 200 feet of where I set up? Or, do I have to have a bathroom within 200 feet?

Excluding churches who are approved of “commissarying” downtown, that leaves restuarants. Which restuarant will “commissary” me, and then after allow me to push my cart 200 feet away to potentially take business away from them? Isn’t business hard enough for them as it is?

If everything is prepped in the commissary, why do you have to park your cart at the commissary? Is there enough open space downtown to do this?

Will the taxes collected from the entreprenewers go directly to fund the extra needed health inspectors (thus setting up a classic case of a 50s fraud movie starring Frank Gorshin) or to filling the potholes so that cart can actually get 200 feet from a commissary?

All kidding aside, I love the initiative, the first baby steps. The will to get something going. Thanks to everyone for their hard work.

Marty June 17, 2010

@ jdub
The 200 foot commissary rule has been revised to anywhere in Pierce County, however a vendor will still need a bathroom within 200 feet.

More information can be found at both the City of Tacoma AND the Health Department, as we work toward a “no wrong door” policy. No mater which place you go first, they both have the rules and regulations for the other.

Altered Chords June 17, 2010

if there is a pothole nearby, you can put a tent over it and call it a bathroom.

crenshaw sepulveda June 17, 2010

Would that bathroom be for the vendor or for the customers? It is starting to sound like existing commissaries will have a huge advantage over upstarts that have no commissary connections. Indeed, it would seem that much of this depends on existing commissaries willing to share their facilities with the street vendors if we are to have any variety in the street vendors at all. If I am an existing commissary it would be unlikely I’ll be supporting someone that will be taking business away from me.

Altered Chords June 17, 2010

Crenshaw: Have you asked or are you satisfied to just give up without even asking?

Scenario: “Hmmm…I need to take the CTO, CFO and President of XYS widgets out to a power lunch to seal the deal. Do I take them to Pacific Grill or do I buy them bread cubes ‘n cheese wiz at this altered chords food cart”

The above scenario clearly displays the unlikelhood of a food cart taking business away from Pacific Grill.

tressie June 17, 2010

I’m hoping MSM, Marlene’s and Quickie2 will upstart….The bathroom w/in 200ft is for vendors use. Food carts will have their own handwashing water, etc…..So how friendly will nearby Tacoma businesses be towards a stream of non-customers traipsing in to use facilities/wash up? Will they “take one for the team”…as in…more people = more exposure = more sales = good..over the long run?

Jenyum June 17, 2010

Yeah, I would think a lot of smaller food establishments would welcome a food cart agreement, they make a little money by offering the use of their kitchen for an hour in the morning when they aren’t using it. It should be easy enough to find a business that doesn’t conflict with your cart. If you’re trying to open a food cart and you don’t know anyone who owns any restaurant in Tacoma well enough to even ask, well…

Also there are a lot of large buildings downtown with bathrooms in the lobby. The Rhodes Center comes to mind, doesn’t Wells Fargo have one, too? What about the Russell Building? Opportunities are everywhere.

Thorax O'Tool June 17, 2010

This could be easily solved by having public pay toilets at a few key locations in downtown.

Or some honey buckets.
WAIT! That’s it! Put 3 or 4 honey buckets and some fencing or whatnot on some of the gaping holes in downtown… make it look like a construction site. No one will care about the honey buckets then.

tressie June 18, 2010

Honey Buckets are prohibited in Seattle’s regs as far as the 200foot bathroom issue. I’m too lazy to read Tac’s rules on this…Will they allow Honey Buckets/handwashing dt for food vendors/employees?
HB’s are so Tacoma!
Back in the day, when there were Court C doings, and festivals on Pacific Ave. there were lots of HB’s…
I really want to see this Be Happenin’

inacomaintacoma June 18, 2010

please stop it with the food carts.

heres what needs to happen.

turn the murray morgan bridge into a kick ass board walk, with little vendors and stuff along the sides. like a mini coney island boardwalk/ponte vecchio (florence, italy) with some rides and crap on the port side of the bridge. give people a reason to come to tacoma, walk across the bridge, and do sht on the other side before walking back. keep the parking over by the dome so people will ride the link instead for once.
all tacoma is missing is a decent board walk attraction in the dt area for all ages. light the freaking bridge up etc.

as for pacific ave, there needs to be more space for terraces where people can sit and drink beer and coffee. especially around the UW, and fireman’s park areas.

please stop discussing the fruitless little food cart idea as a means to lure in more spase peepole. it’s embarrassing to read.

…and heres wishing tacomathinker was instead not thinking

All you need is $$$$ June 18, 2010

@ inacomaintacoma,
Your idea of using crap to lure people sounds interesting, but…

Who will run it?
How will you pay for it?

The food and arts vendor program is a no / low cost idea that allows for innovation and investment by the vendor?

It’s not an “all-in!, Oh god I hope this saves Tacoma” plan. It is just one of those several little things Tacoma could be doing better.

Keep in mind, for your idea to work, these regulations needed to be changed to what they are now. So you are one step closer, now you just need to raise the funds.

Altered Chords June 18, 2010

@50 – after college he’s coming back with %5,000,000 to $10,000,000 to fix Tacoma.

He said it on this blog.

It is now a permanently preserved commitment.

Jenyum June 18, 2010

Taking this seriously for a second…

At the moment they don’t even want more than 50 pedestrians on the thing. (This is why it had to be off limits to foot traffic during tall ships.) So, in order to do make it into the Ponte Vecchio you’d still have to fix up the bridge. Also, I imagine there would be some environmental impact issues from having that much material and potential for litter on the bridge.

But I’m all for anything that gets people using the bridge since we just opened up a business 1000 feet from the other side.

RR Anderson June 18, 2010

@Jenyum

They had the ribbon cutting, the MMB fix is on the up and up… Great #buynowinvest location for the Tacoma Tactical LARPers!

Thorax O'Tool June 18, 2010

Don’t say “1000” feet. That 4th digit is all psychological. Call it 999 feet, and then claim to be “less than 1000 feet“ from the bridge. Just like a $29,999 car is “under thirty thousand”.
Works for car dealerships, no? Make it work for you too!

inacomaintacoma June 18, 2010

the words ponte vecchio literally translate into ‘old bridge’. as in built in the 14th century older than the first disease carrying footsteps in north america kind of old. the morgan bridge is a gonad cell in your daddy’s testie purse compared to the ponte vecchio in terms of age. please do not say things like it can only carry 50 people on it or it needs to be fixed up. thats just smoke and mirrors. you have more chance of losing your walmart enslaved lives to that volcano up the road exploding than the morgan bridge giving way. litter? there is so much litter everywhere else that this will then make things blend more. besides, you all love the grittiness and can always call the le may people when sht gets out of hand to manage the litter because they are going to need the extra money to keep the meal worm open anyway.

Altered Chords June 18, 2010

Was a Tacoma resident rude to this kid while he was here?

Coma you need to listen to baroque music and stop drinking the hateraide.

inacomaintacoma June 18, 2010

i’d rather listen to my denis leary tapes and keep drinking the realtalkjuice. why you gotta hate on the real talk, allturd?

Steven June 18, 2010

It would seem that our friend Coma has vast knowledge in a wide range of fields such as engineering, economics, world tourism, arts and culture, city planning, politics and yet has not even matured past petty name calling nor completed college. One can only wonder what expertise we will be the benefactors of once the lad has completed his studies.

On the other had, other than offering a bit of realty TV like drama to the site, he seems to have nothing of value to add to the conversation. Funny that.

(and I can hardly wait the witty repartee he will hit me with now. Lay it on me coma!)

RR Anderson June 18, 2010

we just got to wear him down with love. It takes way to much energy to be that curmudgeony for very long.

rick June 19, 2010

…he [inacoma] seems to have nothing of value to add to the conversation.

I would argue he adds as much to the conversation as many of the frequent commenters. From my perspective there are 1) those “contributors” who seek to inform and/or engage in sincere and thoughtful dialogue regarding the topic at hand; 2) those who seek debate and/or wish to share a passionate perspective; 3) those who seek to amuse (be it others or themselves); and 4) those in the “thorax o’tool” classification…

By my judgment, many of inacoma’s postings are a blend of the second and third types of contributions. However, now that he has evidently shared his approximate age, it appears that some of the faithful 133 readers have chosen to discount his perspectives. And while I appreciate there are those who may have an aversion to his writing style (the lack of capital letters, his more confrontational approach, and affinity to provoke and/or “name call”) I happen to find some of his comments insightful, and very often amusing.

His clear disdain for the city is certainly no basis for discounting his opinions. Sometimes it’s necessary to admit your baby is ugly.

Anyhow, the pattern seems to be that he shares a critical view on some such topic, then one of the “serious adults” goes on to challenge him… and then our newfound critic fires back. He usually holds his own quite nicely… and he definitely has an impressive trail of creative and clever insults. If nothing else, it sure makes the threads a lot more interesting to read!

inacomaintacoma June 19, 2010

steven, there’s a special label for people like you in a thread: the mr lahey.

The Obvious June 19, 2010

It’s interesting that the HD regs are so restrictive for those in brick & mortar establishments, yet we can bend the rules for the sidewalk??? I witness daily, people getting sick or going to the bathroom on the sidewalk near my restaurant. Maybe we should clean up the streets before we serve food on them???

The Obvious June 19, 2010

It’s interesting that the HD regs are so restrictive for those in brick & mortar establishments, yet we can bend the rules for the sidewalk??? I witness daily, people getting sick or going to the bathroom on the sidewalk. Maybe we should clean up the streets before we serve food on them???

You're Welcome June 19, 2010

@63 I agree and I wonder if we don’t work in the same building??? But where will the clean-up money come from? Will you organize it? Will tax payers agree to fund it?

The city doesn’t have to pay for street vendors. The vendors pay the city. AND, much dirtier cities have been rockin’ street vendors for a long time (NY, Chi, Seattle…)

NOT inacomaintacoma June 19, 2010

maybe one day you little kids will grow up a little and walk into the sunshine like ‘real’ adults. i get tired of over and over and over again telling you petty fools how to fix the shit in this town and no one ever listens. yeah sure, once in a while someone bites on the lure but then they break off, lose interest and keep swimming upstream to spawn with the rest of the salmon. until they get trapped in an indian’s net somewhere upstream. what have you accomplished at this point? what have you added to the city besides your cowardice to effect anything tangible?
people wonder why all you troglodytes sicken me so much. it’s easy because i am a hell of a lot more like you than your like me. i was a punk little fucktard like you until about a year ago. something big happened in my life to make me enlightened and able to look down on you stupes. in college, i read a book about selassie and about him being jah in the flesh. that was my awakening and why i can see what you all cant. i hope one day you’ll all grow up and see what your missing because then you can full understand how you and your city council act to throw tacoma back into the stoneage rather than into the bright international future.

inacomaintacoma June 20, 2010

didn’t you just prove my point by trying to post as me, whoever you are (i am thinking it’s allturd)? wouldn’t such a counterfeit approach only prove the point that there are indeed highly unoriginal, bait gulping troglodytes among the readers here?

HAHA!

now, if some of you weren’t bait gulping idiots, you wouldn’t try to fire back at me.

selassie and jah? the slightly bigoted salmon caught in an indian net analogy? at least try to be a little less obviously bigoted and witless.

firing back at me like that only proves my points!

thank you whoever you are!!

NOT Altered Chords June 20, 2010

Hey leave me and my frustrated bait gulping ass out of this.

And don’t make fun of Steven either, he did turn out to be the biggest bait gulper on this thread, and is obviously a total Mr Roper, but at least he tries to moderate the troglodyte bashing.

Yes, Steven does know how to read, just not interpret exactly what the guidelines for comments mean when they say attack the writing.

Thanks though, inacoma, for pointing out how the readers to whom your jabs truly apply, will time and time again take the bait thus proving all your points, and be pitifully unable to control themselves on a thread that you have deemed worthy of critiquing in your own, original, non-counterfeit way.

inacomaintacoma June 20, 2010

ok sorry allturd.

even though the impostor didn’t have the brains to see they were actually burning themselves and their compadres here with the “maybe one day you kids will grow up” (and not help me prove my points by doing exactly the opposite by doing only what little dumb adult sized kids do when totally frustrated), i won’t hold it against you.

though i would suspect that even you can notice right now that for the real hateraide gulping bait chomping imposters on this thread….it’s checkmate snootchie bootches!!!!!

haha!

tressie June 21, 2010

nobody reads exit133 anymore because it has turned into wedgie-pulling central hqtrs…Derek, while you’re off subway-tiling your salsa deck, the kids are shooting cheez-wiz all over your white grasscloth foyer…

Mofo from the Hood June 21, 2010

It could be that a whole lot of tittle-tattle readers and commentators have gone one step beyond this tit for tat titilation about the promise of titbit carts.

The quaint neoAmish behind Tacoma Food Cart will be discussing the benefits of chipped ice Perrier and free-range corndogs ‘till ten years from Tuesday.

Meanwhile, the mobile Mexi-Bus food revolution has staked its Tacoma territory at South 12th and Pine Street, South 38th & G St., and Center Street near Stevens Street.

Altered Chords June 21, 2010

spoofer must not like jazz.

Back to foodcarts.

Slim Jim June 21, 2010

There’s a great mobile taco cart in South Tacoma (but I’m keeping the location secret in case Marty tries to shut it down). There’s also one that comes into town from Puyallup every so often.

Oh, and yes inacoma, that was a complete grammatically correct sentence… however the fault I have with it is that it contradicts itself. How could something nonsensical have “stopped making sense” (nonsensical means it wasn’t sensible to begin with).

I may have previously said inacoma’s quirky comments were refreshing, but now it’s kind of like watching someone loose their mind right in front of us…

Tim Smith June 21, 2010

@76 Don’t give away our secrets! Shhhhhh….there is NOTHING happening in South Tacoma. Keep moving. Keep moving. Go downtown thats where EVERYTHING is happening.

Thorax O'Tool June 21, 2010

ok, now I really need to know where this place is.
Slim/Tim, you can email me the location of this place, I will keep it secret, keep it safe.

the email address is thorax o tool at gmail dot com

I MUST know!!!!!!

Slim Jim June 22, 2010

Will do, Thorax.

Steven June 22, 2010

Rats, and I thought I was pointing out that the bait was all marshmallows and no worm.

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